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<div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div>Thanks to all who helped, it all worked out well, <br>and surprisingly painlessly in the end (everything's<br>easy when you know how.) I got Sun Java 6, and <br>I launch it (eclipse 3.4) like so:<br><br>~> /opt/eclipse/eclipse -vm /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.06/jre/bin/java<br><br>and it runs just fine (although I did get immediate<br>fatal, and puzzling, errors - until I remembered to<br>wipe the residue of previous attempts in ~/.eclipse)<br>Although I did have to augment the initial eclipse<br>download by pointing help->software updates to<br><a href="http://download.eclipse.org/tools/cdt/releases/ganymede">http://download.eclipse.org/tools/cdt/releases/ganymede</a><br>and add all the CDT tools (i.e. they were not in<br>eclipse-cpp-ganymede-linux-gtk.tar.)<br>-<br>Thanks again for all the help - Ed <br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new
york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: Jim Sansing <jjsansing@verizon.net><br>To: calug@unknownlamer.org<br>Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:17:58 PM<br>Subject: Re: [CALUG] Eclipse 3.4 with CDT 5.0?<br><br>
I understand and agree with everything you say. However,<br>Tomcat is a simple application compared to Eclipse. Unless<br>you are doing some crazy, interactive multimedia from your<br>website, you're basically working with text, files, and maybe<br>some database. Eclipse, on the other hand, is using graphics,<br>builds SWT apps, and a few of the plugins get into crazy,<br>interactive multimedia.<br><br>I haven't upgraded to Kubuntu 8, but I'm pretty sure that gcj<br>is still the default JRE. It works great, up to a point, but like<br>many FOSS apps, the project has had some difficulty getting<br>specs, and definitely isn't getting much corporate support. So<br>they are pretty far behind the bleeding edge. This means that<br>the Eclipse package for your distro should work OK. But if<br>you download directly from <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://Eclipse.org">Eclipse.org</a>, you'd better roll
up<br>your
sleeves.<br><br>The "it's about time" good news is that Sun has finally GPL'ed<br>Java. However, from my reading, some parts could not be, so<br>it will still be at least one more release before Free distros will<br>be able to use it in its entirety. It has been available in the non-free<br>repositories for as long as I have used Debian and *buntu, so I<br>think that the main issue is licensing. However, I wonder if the<br>GNU/Linux distros will continue to use gcj as the default, out of<br>loyalty.<br><br>The other one to watch is Kaffe. I haven't used it, but from<br>what I have read, it has been able to take advantage of Sun<br>Java being GPL'ed to speed up development. I believe it's<br>mostly a RedHat project, which isn't be bad for Debian based<br>distros, but the packaging is a little different from RPMs.<br><br>Later . . . Jim<br><br><br>Keith wrote:<br>> Since Sun's movement towards making Java open
source, the Sun Java<br>> packages have been a part of the standard repositories in Ubuntu. Just<br>> look for the packages starting with sun-java*. Both java5 & java 6 are<br>> listed. If you have gcj installed already, installing a sun-java*<br>> package will set it to be removed.<br>><br>> I've been running Tomcat on an Ubuntu-LTS machine (first 6.04, then<br>> 8.04) for almost a year now with no problems what-so-ever.<br>><br>> Keith<br>><br>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Jim Sansing <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jjsansing@verizon.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:jjsansing@verizon.net">jjsansing@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>>> Googling for it talks around the problem, but an older similar<br>>> problem suggests upgrading the Java runtime. Since you are<br>>> running Ubuntu, I am assuming your Java is gcj. I have been<br>>> able to run Eclipse with
that, but when I installed Sun
Java, it<br>>> ran lightyears faster. I have also had some issues where gcj<br>>> doesn't work at all, specifically when using SSL.<br>>><br>>> If you haven't played with this before, brace yourself. I had to<br>>> use 'update-alternatives' to set a dozen links to point to Sun java.<br>>> Read the man page carefully! Also, the /etc/eclipse/java_home<br>>> file is like a PATH environment variable for JREs.<br>>><br>>> Later . . . Jim<br>>><br>>><br>>> Ed Browne wrote:<br>>> <br>>>> Hi Ray,<br>>>> Thanks for the reply. I tried that, but it just crashes on startup<br>>>> (in typical java fashion spewing 100 lines to the screen and 1100<br>>>> to the error log), I can't make heads or tails of it (besides, nobody<br>>>> expects to debut a serious product like this right out of the
box.)<br>>>> FWIW, here's the lines from the screen and a few of the lines from<br>>>> the error log. Thanks - Ed<br>>>><br>>>> bongo:~> /opt/eclipse/eclipse<br>>>> org.osgi.framework.BundleException: State change in progress for<br>>>> bundle<br>>>> "reference:file:plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.p2.reconciler.dropins_1.0.0.v20080611.jar"<br>>>> by thread "Start Level Event Dispatcher".<br>>>> ...<br>>>> -------------------------------<br>>>><br>>>> root@bongo:/home/edbrown/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.4.0_1473617060/configuration#<br>>>> more 1221069352918.log<br>>>> !SESSION 2008-09-10 18:55:52.294<br>>>> -----------------------------------------------<br>>>> eclipse.buildId=I20080617-2000<br>>>> java.fullversion=GNU libgcj 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu6)<br>>>> BootLoader
constants: OS=linux, ARCH=x86, WS=gtk, NL=en_GB<br>>>> Command-line arguments: -os linux -ws gtk -arch x86<br>>>><br>>>> !ENTRY org.eclipse.core.runtime.compatibility 4 0 2008-09-10 18:56:58.416<br>>>> !MESSAGE<br>>>> !STACK 0<br>>>> org.osgi.framework.BundleException: Exception in<br>>>> org.eclipse.core.internal.plugins.CompatibilityActivator.stop() of<br>>>> bundle org<br>>>> ...<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> ----- Original Message ----<br>>>> From: Ray Lischner <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:linux@tempest-sw.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:linux@tempest-sw.com">linux@tempest-sw.com</a>><br>>>> To: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:calug@unknownlamer.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:calug@unknownlamer.org">calug@unknownlamer.org</a><br>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:35:39
AM<br>>>> Subject: Re: [CALUG] Eclipse 3.4 with CDT
5.0?<br>>>><br>>>> On Tuesday 09 September 2008 03:38 pm, Ed Browne wrote:<br>>>><br>>>> <br>>>>> Has anyone sucessfully installed Eclipse 3.4 with CDT5.0?<br>>>>> <br>>>> I simply went to the Downloads page and chose Eclipse IDE for C/C++<br>>>> Developers. The file is eclipse-cpp-ganymede-linux-gtk.tar.gz. I simply<br>>>> untared it in /opt, and I can run /opt/eclipse/eclipse just fine.<br>>>><br>>>> I did NOT try to update Europa.<br>>>> --<br>>>> Ray Lischner<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>> CALUG mailing list<br>>>> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:CALUG@unknownlamer.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:CALUG@unknownlamer.org">CALUG@unknownlamer.org</a> <mailto:<a rel="nofollow"
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