<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><br>I would disagree that I need to update F12.<br>Virtually everything in a(ny) distro works when it's<br>released. I'm not so paranoid that I need to do<br>every security upgrade. Bug fixes for apps are usually<br>under control within a few months of releases.<br>Usually apps that don't work aren't included, but I can<br>mess up a box ( and mostly fix) as easily as the next guy.<br><br>IRC has been around since ... errrr.... welll.... DOS ?<br>So even a shell CLI should work. Unfortunately,<br>Fedora replaced gaim with empathy. The usual switcheroo<br>on apps acquiring new magical names no one knows. Or<br>apps replaced with an unproven one and a new name no one<br>knows about.<br><br>I'm going to be looking at a CLI IRC as well as a gui.<br><br>comment:<br>Frankly, I don't see a great deal in Fedora-12 that I
didn't see/need in<br>a desktop back to Fedora 3. However, I'm fascinated by the continous<br>betterment without the "better" part called "changes" for lack of a better<br>description. I do understand the need for<br>improvements to those who need server speedups, multicore, VM machines<br>etc. And I really don't like to get TOO far out of date just to see the new<br>stuff every so often. One bugaboo is I'm not getting paid to look for bugs<br>or test out new apps. But, I'm sorta almost maybe looking forward to<br>F16..( not the jet). I doubt the dialer is any better... yes, I'm still using a 56k modem.<br>(The dialer gets as stuck under the same circumstances it did in F3,5,6,8,9.)<br>(I'm talking both "modem lights" and "Network Config Control").<br><br>Why dialup? I'm haven't a reason to get a higher speed as I don't watch youtube<br>videos or get paid for web browsing.. I do this for
fun. I also have a Windows<br>box for some apps I use. Who doesn't ??????<br><br>Will let you know results of IRC after I dilly a little more...<br>And perhaps get more replies...<br>when the weather cools a bit.. This lil office doesn't have AC.<br>But as long as the PC heat sink is kept clear of dust, the box keeps humming.<br> <br>Walt........<br><br><br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 21:25:12 -0400<br>From: Jeremy Bicha <<a href="compose?to=jeremy@bicha.net">jeremy@bicha.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: [CALUG] irc client in Fedora 12<br>Cc: "<a href="compose?to=calug@unknownlamer.org">calug@unknownlamer.org</a>" <<a href="compose?to=calug@unknownlamer.org">calug@unknownlamer.org</a>><br>Message-ID:<br> <CAAajCMYRvvjHtE0PKg36mMPH6YVBBv=<a href="compose?to=2q5TrZJWZ3-etcTAqkw@mail.gmail.com">2q5TrZJWZ3-etcTAqkw@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=ISO-8859-1<br><br>On 21 July 2011 20:08, Walt Smith <<a href="compose?to=waltechmail@yahoo.com">waltechmail@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>> I found pidgin in a fedora in repo /Everything dir online,<br>> although I'm disappointed at how difficult fedora made<br>> it to find a F12 repository.<br><br>Fedora 12 is no longer being actively maintained so you really need to<br>be using Fedora 14 or 15. If you're going to use Fedora, you have to<br>keep upgrading as a released version receives security & other updates<br>for 13 months only.<br><br><a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases" target="_blank">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases</a><br><a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Life_Cycle" target="_blank">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Life_Cycle</a><br><br>If upgrading every few months is too much for you then you should<br>reconsider which distro you use.<br><br>Jeremy
Bicha<br><br>Celebrating over 13,000 emails in my Yahoo Inbox !</td></tr></table>