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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Well I have a solution - Not elegant - but it works. I looked at a number of browsers - and checked the code produced with on does "view source" and save. It turns out that Google Chrome does an excellent job, much better than the others. So I did this for each web page on the site and then adjusted the code to integrate the files. This of course also required adjusting the links etc. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I still have a bit of debugging to do - but it all basically works, for now as a subdomain on my Hostmonster - host.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks guys for your considerations.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Richard<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> calug-bounces@unknownlamer.org [mailto:calug-bounces@unknownlamer.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Swift<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 06, 2013 4:06 PM<br><b>To:</b> calug@unknownlamer.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CALUG] Convert. Web pages in .asp to html<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>We can help you convert the asp site to php. We can also convert it to Joomla CMS.<br>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 05/06/2013 03:57 PM, <a href="mailto:dalevogel@verizon.net">dalevogel@verizon.net</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>At the risk of getting too involved. I would highly recommend WordPress over Drupal. As for the 960 pixels, the screen width is set up in the CSS file. The site can be set up to resize, i.e. zoom in and out, or to static +1600 pixel width, or less, at your choice. If you choose to put a new site together with WordPress you will find a slew of consultants out there that can do the job for you at a reasonable cost. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>On 05/06/13, Richard Stuart<a href="mailto:rl.stuart@verizon.net"><rl.stuart@verizon.net></a> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Question for you experts out there. I've not found a basic a solution to get to HTML code and java scripts Perl scripts CGI scripts etc. Some have suggested rebuilding using Word Press or Drupal. These seem to limit the basic screen as displayed to about 960 pixels. In the limited work I've done I have never exercise such a limit. Why does WordPress and Drupal have such a limit???? To me it tends to make your web page look like watching a 50's movie on a new laptop or widescreen TV. Ug!<br><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#888888'>Sent from my android device.</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Bryan J Smith <<a href="mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org" target="_blank">b.j.smith@ieee.org</a>><br>To: Brian Harnish <<a href="mailto:brian@harnish.net" target="_blank">brian@harnish.net</a>><br>Cc: Richard Stuart <<a href="mailto:rl.stuart@verizon.net" target="_blank">rl.stuart@verizon.net</a>>, "<a href="mailto:calug@unknownlamer.org" target="_blank">calug@unknownlamer.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:calug@unknownlamer.org" target="_blank">calug@unknownlamer.org</a>><br>Sent: Sun, 05 May 2013 8:44 PM<br>Subject: Re: [CALUG] Convert. Web pages in .asp to html<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Brian Harnish <<a href="mailto:brian@harnish.net" target="_blank">brian@harnish.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Quite the holy war going on in this thread,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Well, in my case, I am all about the exact _opposite_. "Risk mitigation" doesn't know "faith" or "allegiance." But I constantly run into dozens of people who see it that way. Why? Because when it come right down to it, there are few things that Microsoft does that is not a major risk. The only "risk reduction" with most Microsoft solutions is when one is already using them, so staying with those solutions might be so short-term.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>It's just the reality most of us deal with on almost a weekly basis with customers. As Gartner warned way back in 1999, no vendor is going to offer a way out of lock-in. So expecting open source to solve an issue of lock-in is really not what open source has ever been about. It's about offering a solution to problems, which requires enterprises to make a conscious and strategic decision to move. As always, I put things in terms of risk.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>As far too many enterprises are finding out, legacy VB 6 and MS IE 6 are major risks right now, and their investments have been made in vain long-term. And even .NET must be taken on with a full understanding of the risks involved, should it be leveraged as a solution. I've taken a lot of "heat" for balking any time someone states .NET is portable. And I've ended up being right in every single case. Just food for thought ... on a Linux and open source list. ;)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>but to answer your question: The way to convert them is to either find someone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>who knows those technologies and agree on a wage for them to do it.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Actually, there are a number of automated solutions out there that are designed to convert ASP to JSP. Now in several cases, they are not discrete solutions. I.e., they often have strings attached with purchasing their Java Beans and other components that run on your application server. In some cases they do comprise of code licensed from Microsoft, but have been ported to run on a Java vertical stack. It's really all about what you need to do.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>That's an additional debate between "clean room" and more "intermediate" migration/porting options.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Bryan J Smith - Professional, Technical Annoyance<br>b.j.smith at <a href="http://ieee.org" target="_blank">ieee.org</a> - <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/bjsmith" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/bjsmith</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>_______________________________________________<br>CALUG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:CALUG@unknownlamer.org" target="_blank">CALUG@unknownlamer.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.unknownlamer.org/listinfo/calug" target="_blank">http://lists.unknownlamer.org/listinfo/calug</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>!DSPAM:2,51880c2e12871713114383! <br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>CALUG mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:CALUG@unknownlamer.org">CALUG@unknownlamer.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.unknownlamer.org/listinfo/calug">http://lists.unknownlamer.org/listinfo/calug</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>!DSPAM:2,51880c2e12871713114383!<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Ron Swift<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>President<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Swift Staffing<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>410-788-7011, ext 5005<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.swiftstaffing.com">www.swiftstaffing.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Celebrating 24 years in business, 1989 - Present<o:p></o:p></pre></div></body></html>