<div dir="ltr"><div>So I have horrible long-term memory and the question I'm about to ask is sincere, not sarcastic or argumentative. When in US history have policy, laws, or practices of security agencies been changes as a direct result of rallying?<br>
<br></div>Another sincere question: Even if the NSA publicly backs down on its snooping efforts, wouldn't it be likely that they would continue (and maybe even accelerate) existing efforts in private as if nothing ever happened? (Say they've stopped when they really haven't).<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Chuck Frain <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chuck@chuckfrain.net" target="_blank">chuck@chuckfrain.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">This message popped up on another list I'm on. I echo Kevin's opening<br>
paragraph that I tend to avoid political talk on many discussion lists,<br>
but I know there are people interested in the topic of NSA surveillance.<br>
<br>
What is contained below is all I know of the event and I've only taken a<br>
glance at the organizing and home page of the group. Assuming what is<br>
there is legit, this seems like an organization with most of the privacy<br>
rights groups on board.<br>
<br>
Do what you will with the info.<br>
<br>
Chuck<br>
<br>
----- Forwarded message from Kevin Cole -----<br>
<br>
> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:51:18 -0400<br>
> Subject: [Novalug] This Saturday: Rally Against Mass Surveillance<br>
><br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> I normally avoid political posts to these lists, but considering it's<br>
> a techie issue that seems to have broad political support on both<br>
> sides of the aisle (and even in the wings), consider yourself<br>
> "informed". ;-)<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://techfreedom.org/post/62923154540/rally-against-mass-surveillance-in-dc-this-october-26" target="_blank">http://techfreedom.org/post/62923154540/rally-against-mass-surveillance-in-dc-this-october-26</a><br>
><br>
> Useful details at <a href="https://rally.stopwatching.us/faq.html" target="_blank">https://rally.stopwatching.us/faq.html</a> and the rest<br>
> of that site.<br>
><br>
> Do with the info what you will. And if there are convoys from one or<br>
> more of these lists, I may join you, though I've become very cynical<br>
> regarding the effectiveness of rallies and protests.<br>
><br>
> And yes, the irony of the whole situation and method of organizing the<br>
> event is not lost on me.<br>
><br>
> ;-)<br>
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