[CALUG] NAS / SAN / external hard-drive

Sat Feb 24 23:40:26 EST 2007

 >>(e.g. SMB/NFS) configuration errors or vulnerabilities could result 
in allowing more than originally intended.

Word. I'd rather have to figure out a fixed blade knife than a 
leatherman.  Of course, that doesn't help in terms of real security (ie 
skilled bug finders) unless the nas implemented audited software.  They 
should never be accessible beyond your LAN anyhow though, and you know 
I'm a big fan of just relying on, say, an IDS or something.

 >>Too often us linux folk format a USB drive ...

That's a good point in a very heterogenous environment. I, of course, am the token Windows guy and don't really have to worry about that :) 

 >>(e.g. sending one to your parents and telling them to use it as a backup

 any diff than sending them an external drive ?

>>My Infrant ReadyNAS (I have the X6)

Yeah I checked them both out when you first clued me in on them, but they're too pricey for me.  Not arguing their value, just my budget.

Sean Wilkerson wrote:
> The $53 NAS 10/100 won't allow for as fast transfer speed as a USB drive 
> enclosure (USB 2 at 440mb).
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> It would be very easy to setup shares on the NAS, which you can grant 
> access to without having to give access to a machine which may or may 
> not have data you want to share.  Yes, I understand you could restrict 
> access to the directories/files you want, but once you grant access 
> (e.g. SMB/NFS) configuration errors or vulnerabilities could result in 
> allowing more than originally intended.
>
> They are equally as portable, imho.  Though the $53 NAS will work 
> cross-platform more easily.  Too often us linux folk format a USB drive 
> with EXT3 or reiser because it is best for us, but if the time comes we 
> need to share that with the win32 types, there are problems.  ViceVersa, 
> an NTFS drive enclosure requires slightly different access on a *NIX box 
> than an EXT3-formatted drive.
>
> Okay, so I guess
> portability --> NAS
> speed --> USB
> Security --> NAS (from this perspective)
>
> Plus a $53 NAS is cool and there might be uses you never thought of yet 
> (e.g. sending one to your parents and telling them to use it as a backup 
> server.  My Infrant ReadyNAS (I have the X6) that I bought diskless 18 
> months ago, is great but was $600 for the chassis and then whatever 
> drives you put in it.  The ReadyNAS rocks, btw.
>
> Sean
>
> Matt Fisher wrote:
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>> *If one already have a machine that stays on all the time, does a single 
>> drive NAS offer any advantage over just attaching and sharing an 
>> external  drive ?  
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>> Granted, I realize 59$ isn't much more than you'd pay for a drive 
>> enclosure in the first place.
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>> *Rajiv Gunja wrote:
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>>> Dont get me wrong, $1,700 is a lot of money, as it is the price of a 
>>> round trip air-fare to India. I was reseaching on the net and found a 
>>> lot of NAS out there, whose cost starts from $55 to $550 without 
>>> hard-drive and of course with varying protocol and services support. 
>>> The ones that caught my eye were ADS Tech (single drive, 400 GB max 
>>> NAS ), SS4000-E from Intel (4 drives, RAID 0,1,5,10 without drives), 
>>> *Infrant ReadyNAS X6 and ** Thecus N4100. Of these I really liked 
>>> SS4000-E and ADS. Since I have already spent my quota for this year 
>>> ($8000 on a visit to India for a Month and eye candy LCD monitor), I 
>>> might have to go with ADS for now. ADS is NAS with single drive and is 
>>> available for $53 from NewEgg and a seagate 320 GB @ $89 from NewEgg too.
>>>
>>> I had planned on building FreeNAS for a long time, but thinking of 
>>> another PC sitting there in an already PC cluttered desk was not 
>>> acceptable by me or my wife.
>>>
>>> -Rajiv G Gunja
>>>
>>> *
>>> On 2/20/07, *Eldon Ziegler* <eldonz at atlanticdb.com 
>>> <mailto:eldonz at atlanticdb.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     I suppose it depends on what you have in mind by cheap. I've been
>>>     buying
>>>     from these guys and they have a terabyte for $1,737.
>>>
>>>     http://www.visionman.com/build.php?systype=12&fsb=23&ccc_pics=true&osCsid=0b802c743970522745d9bc1cc2741496
>>>     <http://www.visionman.com/build.php?systype=12&fsb=23&ccc_pics=true&osCsid=0b802c743970522745d9bc1cc2741496>
>>>
>>>     On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 09:10 -0500, Rajiv Gunja wrote:
>>>     > Anyone know of a good, yet cheap (affordable) externally attached
>>>     > storage, I would love to have it as a NAS and if it is RAID-1
>>>     capable,
>>>     > even better. I looked into building my own NAS (OpenNAS), but seems
>>>     > like the commercial ones cost almost the same as building our
>>>     own NAS.
>>>     > Thoughts, views, insight, comments most welcome.
>>>     > Thanks
>>>     >
>>>     > -GGR
>>>     >
>>>     > --
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>>>     >
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