<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><br></div><div>I don't recall anyone saying why /boot needs so much</div><div>space on an upgrade.</div><div><br></div><div>I have 3 kernels on F12. I did rpm -i rather than rpm -U<br></div><div>The biggest files in /boot are:<br></div><div>initfs 11 meg</div><div>vmlinuz 3.3 meg</div><div>system.map 1.6 megs</div><div><br></div><div>So I have 3 of each with a total /boot space of about 50 megs</div><div>including misc files such as grub etc, most of which are "small".<br></div><div>I can see some reason where an "upgrade" might require a bit more</div><div>space that a single kernel install. But gee whizz !!!<br></div><div><br></div><div>The numbers bandied about suggest that the /boot wants to occupy</div><div>a full cylinder of a disk ( or rather some upgrade script program</div><div>wants
the space) (true: ???? , ????).<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>-------<br></div><div>As an aside, I fired up a FC6 yesterday.</div><div>The terminal fonts are nicer than F12. The apps start faster.</div><div>They run smooth, the mouse is most responsive.</div><div><br></div><div>F12 is on a 2.8 gig box with 1 gig ram.</div><div>FC6 is on a 667 mhz box with 512 megs ram.</div><div><br></div><div>Generally, over the years this has always been the case: older runs faster</div><div>on slower hardware ( I'd say a dozen comparisons ). The older distros</div><div>my have a (very) few less features.... but the sound plays and the movies</div><div>play. It's the incompats with all the yearly "newer" versions of the <br></div><div>data files and servers that force me to upgrade my desktop OS.</div><div>I was also surprised how little difference there was between the apps in FC6
and F12.<br></div><div>Memory ( human) can play tricks. But I also preferred the look and feel of the</div><div>graphical boot window ( progress bar) and the FC6 desktop.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I'd been looking forward ( somewhat) to upgrading ( new install on other disk) <br></div><div>to F15. But I think I'll wait til the "next" edition (F16). Guess I should check the <br></div><div>dev list to see what will be "new" or greatly improved in F16. (if anyone wants to donate</div><div>to ca-list the improvements, please say). <br></div><br>I know I've mention this subject before. But it's been awhile and thought with the recent<br>thread "new vs upgrade install" might be worth simply repeating at this time. Heaven knows<br>how much longer the desktop will exist. Most likely in 3 years, the tablets ( or smartphones)<br>will have enough power that desktops go away forever
and laptops wilt into server class performance<br>machines.<br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Walt............</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Message: 3<br>Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 08:02:38 -0700 (PDT)<br>From: Bryan J Smith <<a href="mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org"><span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1308499293_16">b.j.smith@ieee.org</span></a>><br>Subject: Re: [CALUG] Fedora upgrade unsuccessful<br>To: Joe <<a href="mailto:joe_tseng@hotmail.com">joe_tseng@hotmail.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:calug@unknownlamer.org">calug@unknownlamer.org</a><br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:521249.81174.qm@web110813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com"><span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1308499293_17">521249.81174.qm@web110813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com</span></a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<br><br>Yep, 200MB isn't going to be enough for /boot. Recommend 512MiB or 1GiB <br>(1024MiB) at least.<br><br>As far as requiring a "fresh install,"
that's not true at all. Use a Resizing <br>Boot CD, run system-config-lvm to shrink the LV-VG-PV and then gparted to <br>increase the size of /boot.<br></div><div> </div><div>Celebrating over 13,000 emails in my Yahoo Inbox !<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>