<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#3333ff">Fantastic discussion - i learnt a few new things. I have always played it safe since I switched over to linux back in 2001 for my main desktop. Always went with Intel CPUs. I am not gamer, so did not need Nvidia or any external video cards. Now a days, my son plays on the computer and I have Nvdia card. In the last 7 to 8 years, I have not had an issue with Nvidia drivers. The OS prompts me if I want to use Nvidia drivers or Open source drivers and I go on. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#3333ff">I have noticed on one of my laptops (toshiba - 4k touch screen) it has some kind of a hybrid nvidia/intel graphics card or chip (intel 530, nvdia gm107m/gtx 950m). The OS (deepin linux) prompted me multiple options (a) intel default (poor compatibility), (b) open source driver (poor performance), (c) Bumblebee solution (save power to reduce power consumption) & (d) NV-Prime Solution (for laptops with hybrid graphics). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#3333ff">I chose (c) and it has been working well, at least with the steam games my son and I play. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#3333ff">A note of OS - I have gone down a different path from Ubuntu or Fedora or even Linux Mint - I switched over to Deepin Linux. It has worked with all kinds of hardware I have thrown at it - right from Core 2 Duo to i7 4th gen. Sadly though, they no longer support 32-bit hardware, so my core 2 duo is stuck on an older version of Deepin Linux. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#3333ff"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,255);font-family:verdana,sans-serif"></span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,255)">Good discussion, thanks for sharing your thoughts. I will try to make it in today. </span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,255)">-Rajiv</span><br></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 8:19 AM Ainsley <<a href="mailto:ainsley.gibson@gmail.com">ainsley.gibson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thanks for the info. <br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 12:09 AM Tim Spangler <<a href="mailto:tspang@jefnet.com" target="_blank">tspang@jefnet.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_7934717524533004765gmail-m_-4471468351202792991WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Out of box Fedora 29 Desktop handles the nvidia cards with the nouveau driver, and I can confirm it works fine with a single monitor at 2560x1600 resolution (Dell 3011) on install. I have half a dozen different monitors here at the house, so I can certainly try having a 3 monitor setup, but given the ease of setup with one monitor, I don’t expect a problem just for desktop use. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Using 3d acceleration (like playing games) or PCIE Passthrough is a different story, but that doesn’t seem to be part of the original requirement.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">-Tim<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> Bryan Smith [mailto:<a href="mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org" target="_blank">b.j.smith@ieee.org</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 12, 2019 11:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tim Spangler <<a href="mailto:tspang@jefnet.com" target="_blank">tspang@jefnet.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Ainsley <<a href="mailto:ainsley.gibson@gmail.com" target="_blank">ainsley.gibson@gmail.com</a>>; Wes Westhaver <<a href="mailto:wes@westhaver.com" target="_blank">wes@westhaver.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:calug@unknownlamer.org" target="_blank">calug@unknownlamer.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CALUG] Looking for advice<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">If one is not using the AMD GPU functionality, then it doesn't matter. x86-64 is x86-64, AMD invented it, and it just runs the OS like any x86-64 would. <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The GPUs in this case are 100% nVidia, 0% AMD. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Now trying to support nVidia without their proprietary kernel module is a serious PITA. There are serious limitations, and forget various vector processing options. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Just how nVidia is playing the game. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">- bjs<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 16:10 Tim Spangler <<a href="mailto:tspang@jefnet.com" target="_blank">tspang@jefnet.com</a> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Ainsley,<br><br>I have a Ryzen 2700X sitting here with 2 Nvidia cards running on Fedora 29 without a problem, so I don't think there will be significant problems for using a NVidia card for basic display output. <br><br>That said, trying to blacklist one of them and using PCI Express Pass through to have direct access from a KVM VM is proving to quite be challenging. <br><br>-Tim<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: CALUG [mailto:<a href="mailto:calug-bounces@unknownlamer.org" target="_blank">calug-bounces@unknownlamer.org</a>] On Behalf Of Ainsley<br>Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:42 PM<br>To: Wes Westhaver <<a href="mailto:wes@westhaver.com" target="_blank">wes@westhaver.com</a>><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:calug@unknownlamer.org" target="_blank">calug@unknownlamer.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [CALUG] Looking for advice<br><br>Hi Wes,<br><br>The latest Linux kernel has builtin support for the AMD GPUs without any special firmware downloads. I’m not sure if Nvidia silk requires that you download drivers from their site. I know historically they did not play well with Linux? <br><br>Several of the more modern GPUs will support 2, 3 or 4 monitors. <br><br><br>Ainsley<br>\\////<br>@@<br> ><br>##<br><br>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 13:45, Wes Westhaver <<a href="mailto:wes@westhaver.com" target="_blank">wes@westhaver.com</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>> <br>> Hello,<br>> <br>> I would like to purchase a desktop computer, install Linux (Ubuntu or <br>> Mint?), and attach two (possibly three) monitors to it. Can anyone <br>> here provide guidance on what desktop systems and video cards are well <br>> supported by Linux?<br>> <br>> I'm probably going to purchase some refurbished equipment from <br>> PCLiquidations (<a href="https://www.pcliquidations.com/" target="_blank">https://www.pcliquidations.com/</a>) since I'm on a tight <br>> budget.<br>> <br>> Until now, I've only had experience with using Linux as a server <br>> (mostly headless). But I want to get away from MS-Windows and go completely Linux.<br>> Any advice would be very much appreciated.<br>> <br>> -Wes<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> CALUG mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:CALUG@unknownlamer.org" target="_blank">CALUG@unknownlamer.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.unknownlamer.org/listinfo/calug" target="_blank">http://lists.unknownlamer.org/listinfo/calug</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>CALUG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:CALUG@unknownlamer.org" target="_blank">CALUG@unknownlamer.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.unknownlamer.org/listinfo/calug" target="_blank">http://lists.unknownlamer.org/listinfo/calug</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>CALUG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:CALUG@unknownlamer.org" target="_blank">CALUG@unknownlamer.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.unknownlamer.org/listinfo/calug" target="_blank">http://lists.unknownlamer.org/listinfo/calug</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_7934717524533004765gmail_signature">Ainsley <br><br>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><table cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);margin-top:5px"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="background-color:rgb(237,241,247);padding:5px"><font style="color:rgb(0,51,153)">“To lead people, walk beside them... As for the best leaders, the people do not notice their existence. The next best, the people honor and praise. The next, the people fear; and the next, the people hate... When the best leader's work is done the people say, 'We did it ourselves!'”</font></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><p style="padding-top:3px"><img align="middle" width="11" height="9" src="http://thinkexist.com/i/sq/as4.gif" title="Author Popularity 8/10" alt="" style="border-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial;"> <a href="http://thinkexist.com/quotation/to_lead_people-walk_beside_them-as_for_the_best/344532.html" style="color:rgb(0,51,153)" target="_blank">Lao Tzu quote</a></p></td></tr></tbody></table>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br> <br><br></div>
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