[CALUG] (prob solved) email - again - relaying ?

[Walt Smith]

hi Bernie!! and thanks for the reply.
It was a great help.

AH ! the things one forgets... or can't find...

Short story:
When I signed up months ago for the "arpa" freeshell account, I fairly
easily found some info I needed -but I still had to do searching and 
picking out some details.   

I had since forgotten some of the info, and this time the brain wasn't working too well ... (some of their help pages are like Unix man pages)


And:
I had somehow setup a vhost or vpm ( thanks for reminding me !!)
when I set up my other box FC6 some months ago.
which as far as I can tell, worked -- but MAY have been an intro
"free" account good for 30? days.   i.e. smtp worked OK at that time. 

----

It turns out I missed that  vhost and vpm accessory accounts need 
more money to make them permanent.   The only thing I'm interested 
in is the SMTP, and the vpm account is the cheapest.

** prob solved :  what this means is I need to buy a VPM account.


I couldn't figure out the "relay" error part, since it seemed to 
me accessing the smtp server itself and sending directly out onto 
the net wasn't "relaying".  And it seemingly "worked" using
 mail.freeshell.org, which I mistook for the "other" server.
( and fooled me ).

As it happens, the IP for mail.freeshell.org is the same as  the ip
for smtp.freeshell.org.  Hence why it "sorta" almost worked. Today
I tested sending an email to myself on same domain using smtp and 
no authentication,  and got a "greylisting" error.  I then repeated
sending email to a different domain and got the "relay" error again, 
just to convince  myself.


I appreciate ALL the excerpts.. I needed them !!
thanks,

Walt....


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--- On Fri, 8/1/08, Bernard Karmilowicz <karmilow at intencorp.com> wrote:

> From: Bernard Karmilowicz <karmilow at intencorp.com>
> Subject: Re: [CALUG] email - again - relaying ?
> To: "Walt Smith" <waltechmail at yahoo.com>
> Cc: calug at unknownlamer.org
> Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 7:14 PM
> Hi Walt:
> 
> > I have yet another freeshell related email problem.
> I'm using 
> > Thunderbird to do outgoing mail (SMTP) with no
> authentication of any kind.
> > recall I dialup to an account by "tenex.org"
> ---at least thats the 
> > login. And the email SMTP server is set to
> mail.freeshell.org.
> 
> The lonestar/tenex email FAQ at:
> 
>      http://sdf.lonestar.org/index.cgi?faq?EMAIL?03
> 
> indicates "mail.freeshell.org" is the host for
> *incoming* email (using 
> POP or IMAP).
> 
> 
> 
> > I get an error message from most recpt addresses
> saying that relaying 
> > is not allowed.
> > During several looks at the scattered help in
> freeshell/lonestar.org, 
> > I don't see what I'm doing wrong.
> 
> The aforementioned FAQ includes the following text:
> 
>      "only VHOST and VPM members may use the SMTP
> server"
> 
> 
> 
> > suggestion ??? Is there some tenex.org mail server I
> should use 
> > instead of freeshell which might explain the relay
> prob ?
> 
> The aforementioned FAQ asserts
> "smtp.freeshell.org" is the host for 
> *outgoing* email (using SMTP w/authentication). Per the
> FAQ:
> 
>      "SMTP is now done by password
> authentication"
> 
> 
>  From the FAQ it appears that (1) if you are a
> lonestar/tenex VHOST or 
> VPM member, and (2) you configure your MUA (Thunderbird) to
> use 
> authentication, then you should have success sending may
> thru 
> "smtp.freeshell.org".   {:-)
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> - Bernie
> 
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