[CALUG] (solved) konqueror is funny (crash)

[Bonnie Dalzell]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2011, Walt Smith wrote:

I can make it w3 complaint for you by hand if you want. It is a small 
page would take me maybe 10 minutes following the analysis from W3C.

I have tutorials posted at http://BATW.net on simple html by hand if you 
want to learn the basics of html to do pages in this sort of format.

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> Thanks all who answered.  And those who confirmed the problem.
> I deleted the offending lines of code pointed out by Rajiv
> and konqueror works on that site.  One error message in some status
> bar indicated "source" something something, and I had wrongly assumed
> the site wasn't being reached.  I never would have suspected
> the html code itself would have crashed the browser.  This morning,
> I realized one troubleshoot method would have been to tcpdump
> the request to see that it was properly leaving my box.
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> historical note:
> the web page was done by hand well over 10 years ago, probably
> closer to 1996.  At one point, I had called it into the (very old)
> Mozilla composer and then exited just to see how much additional crap
> would be inserted... and I got rid of "most" of the added crap.
> Again, that was well over 10 years ago.
> Since then, I've done minor edits.
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> Only once in the past has one browser not loaded the page,
> and it didn't crash.  I still don't think konqueror should die
> horribly. I routinely use the distros FF 3.5 to do most browsing.
> And only recently decided to take another look at konqueror.
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> I've not aspired to be a web page designer.
> And I admit that all the &nbsp's are mine.
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> I would be interested in a solution to cleaning up the page.
> I don't know what attributes or composer I could use to achieve
> the same "look" result.  What is available in the F12 distro ?
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> thanks,
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> Walt........
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> --- On Sat, 2/5/11, Rajiv Gunja <opn.src.rocks at gmail.com> wrote:
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> From: Rajiv Gunja <opn.src.rocks at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CALUG] konqueror is funny (crash)
> To: jfitz at computer.org
> Cc: "calug at unknownlamer.org" <calug at unknownlamer.org>, waltechmail at yahoo.com
> Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 11:36 AM
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> Looking at the code, it is faulty.
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> 01. The programmer intended to comment lines 70,71 and 72, but failed to do so. Instead, he/she commented out the entire code from line 70 to the end.
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> Once I commented out those 3 lines (line 70a) <!-- and ending with --> (line 72b), the page loaded without issues.
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> 70a <!--
> 70b <!--P>
> 71  <!--B><!--A HREF="http://www.bcpl.net/help/">BCPL Tech Support Pages</A></B>
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> 72a <!--p>
> 72b -->
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> 02. The programmer is trying to use HTML 4.0, but is not following any of its standards. The code starts off with Windows HTML editor and has too many of the "&nbsp;", which is really bad way to get the text to move to its place.
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> I recently started writing html/php/JS/ajax code and I know how tempting it is to use a WYSIWYG editor, but we end up getting so much more junk than we intended.
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> Yes, writing CSS or using "tables" is more work for a simple text page, but the results are standard and works well on all browsers. (except IE, which seems to have its own mind).
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> Rajiv G Gunja
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> Blog: http://ossrocks.blogspot.com
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> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 22:33, John Fitzpatrick <jfitz2nyc at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I get the same result with Konqueror on Kubuntu 10.10. When going to http://waltech.freeshell.org, Konqueror crashes. (Rather quickly, too.)
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> "Per aspera ad astra"
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> John Fitzpatrick
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> jfitz at computer.org
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> 410-385-2461
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> --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Walt Smith <waltechmail at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> OS is Fedora 12, gnome desktop i686
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>> konqueror 4.4.5 is crashing totally and instantly
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>> with one known address.
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>> however, it *Crashes*  everytime I  do
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>> http://waltech.freeshell.org
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