[CALUG] (solved) konqueror is funny (crash)

[Schmertz, Robert]

Walt,

Did you happen to save the original version -- the one that caused the crash?  Perhaps the Konqueror folks would like it as an example.

-Bob
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From: calug-bounces at unknownlamer.org [calug-bounces at unknownlamer.org] On Behalf Of Walt Smith [waltechmail at yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 1:11 PM
To: calug at unknownlamer.org
Subject: Re: [CALUG] (solved) konqueror is funny (crash)

Thanks all who answered.  And those who confirmed the problem.
I deleted the offending lines of code pointed out by Rajiv
and konqueror works on that site.  One error message in some status
bar indicated "source" something something, and I had wrongly assumed
the site wasn't being reached.  I never would have suspected
the html code itself would have crashed the browser.  This morning,
I realized one troubleshoot method would have been to tcpdump
the request to see that it was properly leaving my box.

historical note:
the web page was done by hand well over 10 years ago, probably
closer to 1996.  At one point, I had called it into the (very old)
Mozilla composer and then exited just to see how much additional crap
would be inserted... and I got rid of "most" of the added crap.
Again, that was well over 10 years ago.
Since then, I've done minor edits.

Only once in the past has one browser not loaded the page,
and it didn't crash.  I still don't think konqueror should die
horribly. I routinely use the distros FF 3.5 to do most browsing.
And only recently decided to take another look at konqueror.

I've not aspired to be a web page designer.
And I admit that all the &nbsp's are mine.

I would be interested in a solution to cleaning up the page.
I don't know what attributes or composer I could use to achieve
the same "look" result.  What is available in the F12 distro ?


thanks,

Walt........


--- On Sat, 2/5/11, Rajiv Gunja <opn.src.rocks at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Rajiv Gunja <opn.src.rocks at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CALUG] konqueror is funny (crash)
To: jfitz at computer.org
Cc: "calug at unknownlamer.org" <calug at unknownlamer.org>, waltechmail at yahoo.com
Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 11:36 AM

Looking at the code, it is faulty.

01. The programmer intended to comment lines 70,71 and 72, but failed to do so. Instead, he/she commented out the entire code from line 70 to the end.


Once I commented out those 3 lines (line 70a) <!-- and ending with --> (line 72b), the page loaded without issues.

70a <!--
70b <!--P>
71  <!--B><!--A HREF="http://www.bcpl.net/help/">BCPL Tech Support Pages</A></B>


72a <!--p>
72b -->

02. The programmer is trying to use HTML 4.0, but is not following any of its standards. The code starts off with Windows HTML editor and has too many of the "&nbsp;", which is really bad way to get the text to move to its place.



I recently started writing html/php/JS/ajax code and I know how tempting it is to use a WYSIWYG editor, but we end up getting so much more junk than we intended.

Yes, writing CSS or using "tables" is more work for a simple text page, but the results are standard and works well on all browsers. (except IE, which seems to have its own mind).



--
Rajiv G Gunja


Blog: http://ossrocks.blogspot.com



On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 22:33, John Fitzpatrick <jfitz2nyc at yahoo.com> wrote:


I get the same result with Konqueror on Kubuntu 10.10. When going to http://waltech.freeshell.org, Konqueror crashes. (Rather quickly, too.)



"Per aspera ad astra"

John Fitzpatrick

jfitz at computer.org

410-385-2461





--- On Fri, 2/4/11, Walt Smith <waltechmail at yahoo.com> wrote:



> OS is Fedora 12, gnome desktop i686

> konqueror 4.4.5 is crashing totally and instantly

> with one known address.

>

> however, it *Crashes*  everytime I  do

> http://waltech.freeshell.org











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