[CALUG] (solved) konqueror is funny
Walt Smith
waltechmail at yahoo.com
Sat Feb 5 18:43:07 EST 2011
Hi all,
First, Bonnie has been helpful with taking a look at
the actual code and trying alternatives.
All who replied offered constructive information.
Second, the "bad" code is available as:
http://waltech.freeshell.org/index.html.txt and
http://waltech.freeshell.org/index.html.txt.html
The first will (should) obviously simply show the html code itself
as plain text since it's a "text" file: I think this depends on the
browser used and user settings. It works that way on my FF.
The second link would crash some konqueror's.
Third:
Konqueror => View has a setting for khtml or webkit.
It crashes in either setting.
Fourth: when recieving a text file, suffix .txt, my browser
has an interesting habit of adding a 2nd "Bookmark" on the
top menu... one is plural and the other isn't !! It goes away
when I get a suffixed .html file.
Fifth: I went to the w3c link and observed the errors.
Thanks!!!!
Walt.........
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> (crash) (Bonnie Dalzell)
> 4. Re: (solved) konqueror is funny
> (crash) (Bonnie Dalzell)
> 5. Re: (solved) konqueror is funny
> (crash) (Schmertz, Robert)
> 6. Browser acid test scores (Ken
> Jackson)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 10:11:57 -0800 (PST)
> From: Walt Smith <waltechmail at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [CALUG] (solved) konqueror is funny (crash)
> To: "calug at unknownlamer.org"
> <calug at unknownlamer.org>
> Message-ID: <21474.16294.qm at web120010.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>
>
> Thanks all who answered. And those who confirmed the
> problem.
> I deleted the offending lines of code pointed out by Rajiv
> and konqueror works on that site. One error message
> in some status
> bar indicated "source" something something, and I had
> wrongly assumed
> the site wasn't being reached. I never would have
> suspected
> the html code itself would have crashed the browser.
> This morning,
> I realized one troubleshoot method would have been to
> tcpdump
> the request to see that it was properly leaving my box.
>
> historical note:
> the web page was done by hand well over 10 years ago,
> probably
> closer to 1996. At one point, I had called it into
> the (very old)
> Mozilla composer and then exited just to see how much
> additional crap
> would be inserted... and I got rid of "most" of the added
> crap.
> Again, that was well over 10 years ago.
> Since then, I've done minor edits.
>
> Only once in the past has one browser not loaded the page,
> and it didn't crash. I still don't think konqueror
> should die
> horribly. I routinely use the distros FF 3.5 to do most
> browsing.
> And only recently decided to take another look at
> konqueror.
>
> I've not aspired to be a web page designer.
> And I admit that all the  's are mine.
>
> I would be interested in a solution to cleaning up the
> page.
> I don't know what attributes or composer I could use to
> achieve
> the same "look" result. What is available in the F12
> distro ?
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Walt........
>
>
> --- On Sat, 2/5/11, Rajiv Gunja <opn.src.rocks at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> From: Rajiv Gunja <opn.src.rocks at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CALUG] konqueror is funny (crash)
> To: jfitz at computer.org
> Cc: "calug at unknownlamer.org"
> <calug at unknownlamer.org>,
> waltechmail at yahoo.com
> Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 11:36 AM
>
> Looking at the code, it is faulty.
>
> 01. The programmer intended to comment lines 70,71 and 72,
> but failed to do so. Instead, he/she commented out the
> entire code from line 70 to the end.
>
>
> Once I commented out those 3 lines (line 70a) <!-- and
> ending with --> (line 72b), the page loaded without
> issues.
>
> 70a <!--
> 70b <!--P>
> 71? <!--B><!--A HREF="http://www.bcpl.net/help/">BCPL Tech Support
> Pages</A></B>
>
>
> 72a <!--p>
> 72b -->
>
> 02. The programmer is trying to use HTML 4.0, but is not
> following any of its standards. The code starts off with
> Windows HTML editor and has too many of the " ",
> which is really bad way to get the text to move to its
> place.
>
>
>
> I recently started writing html/php/JS/ajax code and I know
> how tempting it is to use a WYSIWYG editor, but we end up
> getting so much more junk than we intended.
>
> Yes, writing CSS or using "tables" is more work for a
> simple text page, but the results are standard and works
> well on all browsers. (except IE, which seems to have its
> own mind).
>
>
>
> --
> Rajiv G Gunja
>
>
> Blog: http://ossrocks.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 22:33, John Fitzpatrick <jfitz2nyc at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> I get the same result with Konqueror on Kubuntu 10.10. When
> going to http://waltech.freeshell.org, Konqueror
> crashes. (Rather quickly, too.)
>
>
>
> "Per aspera ad astra"
>
> John Fitzpatrick
>
> jfitz at computer.org
>
> 410-385-2461
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Walt Smith <waltechmail at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > OS is Fedora 12, gnome desktop i686
>
> > konqueror 4.4.5 is crashing totally and instantly
>
> > with one known address.
>
> >
>
> > however, it *Crashes*? everytime I? do
>
> > http://waltech.freeshell.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 14:51:23 -0500
> From: Ken Jackson <linux at kenjackson.us>
> Subject: Re: [CALUG] (solved) konqueror is funny (crash)
> To: calug at unknownlamer.org
> Message-ID: <4D4DAA3B.5070307 at kenjackson.us>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;
> format=flowed
>
> The fact that a single malformed webpage can crash a
> browser
> is proof positive that that browser has a bug.
>
> I didn't think of it till this morning--too late, but I was
> going to
> save that page and come up with as small of a page as I
> could that
> would crash Konqueror and put it on my own site to preserve
> it.
> Then I would post a bug report referencing it.
>
> And what a bug report that would be! Here, just visit
> this site
> and Konqueror immediately crashes.
>
> But I briefly searched <https://bugs.kde.org/query.cgi>, and found
> that at least one other site has been reported already.
> Warning! This crashes Konqueror: <http://www.webmail.us/testvirus>
>
> It was reported in this bug report:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126636
>
> -Ken
>
> On 02/05/2011 01:11 PM, Walt Smith wrote:
> > Thanks all who answered. And those who confirmed
> the problem.
> > I deleted the offending lines of code pointed out by
> Rajiv
> > and konqueror works on that site. One error
> message in some status
> > bar indicated "source" something something, and I had
> wrongly assumed
> > the site wasn't being reached. I never would
> have suspected
> > the html code itself would have crashed the browser.
> ...
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 14:57:28 -0500 (EST)
> From: Bonnie Dalzell <bdalzell at qis.net>
> Subject: Re: [CALUG] (solved) konqueror is funny (crash)
> To: Walt Smith <waltechmail at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "calug at unknownlamer.org"
> <calug at unknownlamer.org>
> Message-ID:
> <alpine.DEB.2.00.1102051455170.1932 at localhost6.localdomain6>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Sat, 5 Feb 2011, Walt Smith wrote:
>
> I can make it w3 complaint for you by hand if you want. It
> is a small
> page would take me maybe 10 minutes following the analysis
> from W3C.
>
> I have tutorials posted at http://BATW.net on simple html by hand if
> you
> want to learn the basics of html to do pages in this sort
> of format.
>
> >
> >
> > Thanks all who answered. And those who confirmed
> the problem.
> > I deleted the offending lines of code pointed out by
> Rajiv
> > and konqueror works on that site. One error
> message in some status
> > bar indicated "source" something something, and I had
> wrongly assumed
> > the site wasn't being reached. I never would
> have suspected
> > the html code itself would have crashed the
> browser. This morning,
> > I realized one troubleshoot method would have been to
> tcpdump
> > the request to see that it was properly leaving my
> box.
> >
> > historical note:
> > the web page was done by hand well over 10 years ago,
> probably
> > closer to 1996. At one point, I had called it
> into the (very old)
> > Mozilla composer and then exited just to see how much
> additional crap
> > would be inserted... and I got rid of "most" of the
> added crap.
> > Again, that was well over 10 years ago.
> > Since then, I've done minor edits.
> >
> > Only once in the past has one browser not loaded the
> page,
> > and it didn't crash. I still don't think
> konqueror should die
> > horribly. I routinely use the distros FF 3.5 to do
> most browsing.
> > And only recently decided to take another look at
> konqueror.
> >
> > I've not aspired to be a web page designer.
> > And I admit that all the  's are mine.
> >
> > I would be interested in a solution to cleaning up the
> page.
> > I don't know what attributes or composer I could use
> to achieve
> > the same "look" result. What is available in the
> F12 distro ?
> >
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Walt........
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 2/5/11, Rajiv Gunja <opn.src.rocks at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > From: Rajiv Gunja <opn.src.rocks at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CALUG] konqueror is funny (crash)
> > To: jfitz at computer.org
> > Cc: "calug at unknownlamer.org"
> <calug at unknownlamer.org>,
> waltechmail at yahoo.com
> > Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 11:36 AM
> >
> > Looking at the code, it is faulty.
> >
> > 01. The programmer intended to comment lines 70,71 and
> 72, but failed to do so. Instead, he/she commented out the
> entire code from line 70 to the end.
> >
> >
> > Once I commented out those 3 lines (line 70a) <!--
> and ending with --> (line 72b), the page loaded without
> issues.
> >
> > 70a <!--
> > 70b <!--P>
> > 71? <!--B><!--A HREF="http://www.bcpl.net/help/">BCPL Tech Support
> Pages</A></B>
> >
> >
> > 72a <!--p>
> > 72b -->
> >
> > 02. The programmer is trying to use HTML 4.0, but is
> not following any of its standards. The code starts off with
> Windows HTML editor and has too many of the " ",
> which is really bad way to get the text to move to its
> place.
> >
> >
> >
> > I recently started writing html/php/JS/ajax code and I
> know how tempting it is to use a WYSIWYG editor, but we end
> up getting so much more junk than we intended.
> >
> > Yes, writing CSS or using "tables" is more work for a
> simple text page, but the results are standard and works
> well on all browsers. (except IE, which seems to have its
> own mind).
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rajiv G Gunja
> >
> >
> > Blog: http://ossrocks.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 22:33, John Fitzpatrick <jfitz2nyc at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I get the same result with Konqueror on Kubuntu 10.10.
> When going to http://waltech.freeshell.org, Konqueror
> crashes. (Rather quickly, too.)
> >
> >
> >
> > "Per aspera ad astra"
> >
> > John Fitzpatrick
> >
> > jfitz at computer.org
> >
> > 410-385-2461
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Walt Smith <waltechmail at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> OS is Fedora 12, gnome desktop i686
> >
> >> konqueror 4.4.5 is crashing totally and instantly
> >
> >> with one known address.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> however, it *Crashes*? everytime I? do
> >
> >> http://waltech.freeshell.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > CALUG mailing list
> >
> > CALUG at unknownlamer.org
> >
> > http://lists.unknownlamer.org/listinfo/calug
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Bonnie Dalzell, MA
> mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA
> 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalzell at qis.net
> Freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer,
> illustrator, dog
> breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at
> www.borzois.com.
> HOME www.batw.net ART
> bdalzellart.batw.net BUSINESS www.boardingatwedge.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 16:11:50 -0500 (EST)
> From: Bonnie Dalzell <bdalzell at qis.net>
> Subject: Re: [CALUG] (solved) konqueror is funny (crash)
> To: Ken Jackson <linux at kenjackson.us>
> Cc: calug at unknownlamer.org
> Message-ID:
> <alpine.DEB.2.00.1102051606100.1932 at localhost6.localdomain6>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Sat, 5 Feb 2011, Ken Jackson wrote:
>
> > The fact that a single malformed web page can crash a
> browser
> > is proof positive that that browser has a bug.
> >
> > I didn't think of it till this morning--too late, but
> I was going to
> > save that page and come up with as small of a page as
> I could that
> > would crash Konqueror and put it on my own site to
> preserve it.
> > Then I would post a bug report referencing it.
> >
> > And what a bug report that would be! Here, just
> visit this site
> > and Konqueror immediately crashes.
> >
> > But I briefly searched <https://bugs.kde.org/query.cgi>, and found
> > that at least one other site has been reported
> already.
> > Warning! This crashes Konqueror: <http://www.webmail.us/testvirus>
> >
> > It was reported in this bug report:
> > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126636
> >
>
> According to wikipedia the engine used by konqueror KHTML
> has a fork -
> webkit which is used in the Safari and Chrome browsers as
> well as the
> current Epiphany browser. I can state that Epiphany 2.30.2
> is not crashed
> by the Waltech page.
>
> I use Epiphany often when I do not want to have the browser
> use resources
> they way Firefox does. However there is/was a bug I have
> not been able
> to properly characterize in Epiphany which will not only
> crash the
> browser but freeze my whole system. It relates to selecting
> a graphic and
> not being able to cancel the selection.
>
> My problem is that I am not a good touch typeist and some
> mistaken key
> combination will trigger this bug. Alas I will not have
> been looking at
> the keyboard when I trigger it:-)
>
>
> > -Ken
> >
> > On 02/05/2011 01:11 PM, Walt Smith wrote:
> >> Thanks all who answered. And those who
> confirmed the problem.
> >> I deleted the offending lines of code pointed out
> by Rajiv
> >> and konqueror works on that site. One error
> message in some status
> >> bar indicated "source" something something, and I
> had wrongly assumed
> >> the site wasn't being reached. I never would
> have suspected
> >> the html code itself would have crashed the
> browser.
> > ...
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CALUG mailing list
> > CALUG at unknownlamer.org
> > http://lists.unknownlamer.org/listinfo/calug
> >
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Bonnie Dalzell, MA
> mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA
> 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalzell at qis.net
> Freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer,
> illustrator, dog
> breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at
> www.borzois.com.
> HOME www.batw.net ART
> bdalzellart.batw.net BUSINESS www.boardingatwedge.com
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 16:37:16 -0500
> From: "Schmertz, Robert" <rschmrtz at integ.com>
> Subject: Re: [CALUG] (solved) konqueror is funny (crash)
> To: "waltechmail at yahoo.com"
> <waltechmail at yahoo.com>,
> "calug at unknownlamer.org"
> <calug at unknownlamer.org>
> Message-ID:
> <503845D7A6920C4FAB5A65A65606BD6C0A644868 at COL-MAIL01C.Integ.Local>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Walt,
>
> Did you happen to save the original version -- the one that
> caused the crash? Perhaps the Konqueror folks would
> like it as an example.
>
> -Bob
> ________________________________________
> From: calug-bounces at unknownlamer.org
> [calug-bounces at unknownlamer.org]
> On Behalf Of Walt Smith [waltechmail at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 1:11 PM
> To: calug at unknownlamer.org
> Subject: Re: [CALUG] (solved) konqueror is funny (crash)
>
> Thanks all who answered. And those who confirmed the
> problem.
> I deleted the offending lines of code pointed out by Rajiv
> and konqueror works on that site. One error message
> in some status
> bar indicated "source" something something, and I had
> wrongly assumed
> the site wasn't being reached. I never would have
> suspected
> the html code itself would have crashed the browser.
> This morning,
> I realized one troubleshoot method would have been to
> tcpdump
> the request to see that it was properly leaving my box.
>
> historical note:
> the web page was done by hand well over 10 years ago,
> probably
> closer to 1996. At one point, I had called it into
> the (very old)
> Mozilla composer and then exited just to see how much
> additional crap
> would be inserted... and I got rid of "most" of the added
> crap.
> Again, that was well over 10 years ago.
> Since then, I've done minor edits.
>
> Only once in the past has one browser not loaded the page,
> and it didn't crash. I still don't think konqueror
> should die
> horribly. I routinely use the distros FF 3.5 to do most
> browsing.
> And only recently decided to take another look at
> konqueror.
>
> I've not aspired to be a web page designer.
> And I admit that all the  's are mine.
>
> I would be interested in a solution to cleaning up the
> page.
> I don't know what attributes or composer I could use to
> achieve
> the same "look" result. What is available in the F12
> distro ?
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Walt........
>
>
> --- On Sat, 2/5/11, Rajiv Gunja <opn.src.rocks at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> From: Rajiv Gunja <opn.src.rocks at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CALUG] konqueror is funny (crash)
> To: jfitz at computer.org
> Cc: "calug at unknownlamer.org"
> <calug at unknownlamer.org>,
> waltechmail at yahoo.com
> Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 11:36 AM
>
> Looking at the code, it is faulty.
>
> 01. The programmer intended to comment lines 70,71 and 72,
> but failed to do so. Instead, he/she commented out the
> entire code from line 70 to the end.
>
>
> Once I commented out those 3 lines (line 70a) <!-- and
> ending with --> (line 72b), the page loaded without
> issues.
>
> 70a <!--
> 70b <!--P>
> 71 <!--B><!--A HREF="http://www.bcpl.net/help/">BCPL Tech Support
> Pages</A></B>
>
>
> 72a <!--p>
> 72b -->
>
> 02. The programmer is trying to use HTML 4.0, but is not
> following any of its standards. The code starts off with
> Windows HTML editor and has too many of the " ",
> which is really bad way to get the text to move to its
> place.
>
>
>
> I recently started writing html/php/JS/ajax code and I know
> how tempting it is to use a WYSIWYG editor, but we end up
> getting so much more junk than we intended.
>
> Yes, writing CSS or using "tables" is more work for a
> simple text page, but the results are standard and works
> well on all browsers. (except IE, which seems to have its
> own mind).
>
>
>
> --
> Rajiv G Gunja
>
>
> Blog: http://ossrocks.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 22:33, John Fitzpatrick <jfitz2nyc at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> I get the same result with Konqueror on Kubuntu 10.10. When
> going to http://waltech.freeshell.org, Konqueror
> crashes. (Rather quickly, too.)
>
>
>
> "Per aspera ad astra"
>
> John Fitzpatrick
>
> jfitz at computer.org
>
> 410-385-2461
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Walt Smith <waltechmail at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > OS is Fedora 12, gnome desktop i686
>
> > konqueror 4.4.5 is crashing totally and instantly
>
> > with one known address.
>
> >
>
> > however, it *Crashes* everytime I do
>
> > http://waltech.freeshell.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> CALUG mailing list
>
> CALUG at unknownlamer.org
>
> http://lists.unknownlamer.org/listinfo/calug
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 16:51:55 -0500
> From: Ken Jackson <linux at kenjackson.us>
> Subject: [CALUG] Browser acid test scores
> To: calug at unknownlamer.org
> Message-ID: <4D4DC67B.9070900 at kenjackson.us>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;
> format=flowed
>
> I decided to rerun the Acid Test on all my
> browsers.<http://acid3.acidtests.org/>
> I even reinstalled Epiphany, since Bonnie referenced it.
>
> Dillo
> v0.8.6 won't run the test
> Konqueror
> v4.5.5 scored 89/100
> Firefox v3.6.13
> scored 94/100
> Epiphany v2.30.6 scored
> 99/100
> Opera
> v11.01 scored 100/100
>
> I don't have MS W running at the moment, so I can't run
> it on their browser.
>
> Go Opera! Though I still prefer Firefox.
>
> -Ken
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 17:30:46 -0500 (EST)
> From: Bonnie Dalzell <bdalzell at qis.net>
> Subject: Re: [CALUG] Browser acid test scores
> To: Ken Jackson <linux at kenjackson.us>
> Cc: calug at unknownlamer.org
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>
> On Sat, 5 Feb 2011, Ken Jackson wrote:
>
> > I decided to rerun the Acid Test on all my
> > browsers.<http://acid3.acidtests.org/>
> > I even reinstalled Epiphany, since Bonnie referenced
> it.
> >
> > Dillo
> v0.8.6 won't run the test
> > Konqueror
> v4.5.5 scored 89/100
> > Firefox v3.6.13
> scored 94/100
> > Epiphany v2.30.6
> scored 99/100
> > Opera
> v11.01 scored 100/100
> >
> > I don't have MS W running at the moment, so I can't
> run
> > it on their browser.
> >
> > Go Opera! Though I still prefer Firefox.
> >
> > -Ken
>
> I did not know about the acid test website. Thanks for that
> info.
>
> On my Ubuntu Natty (sortof) install epiphany 2.30,.2
> got 100/100
> Konqueror 4.5.1 was the same as yours as was Firefox
> 3.6.13
> >
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