[CALUG] Fedora upgrade .... CALUG Digest, Vol 54, Issue 14

[James Ewing Cottrell 3rd]

  I am a bit more anal about partitions...I want the Cylinders to be 
multiples of 1000 so I can remember them. But I am also a fan of Cookie 
Cutter Sized Partitions or LVs.

Alternatively, if you create the Partition Label with 32 sectors and 64 
heads, you get 1M cylinders, which is kinda small, but works nicely for 
flash drives.

Focus Follows Mouse is the Way To Go! And (delayed) Autoraise.

JIM

On 6/20/2011 9:07 AM, Bryan J Smith wrote:
> Depends on what is in the kernel, /boot support, etc...  Lately I've just been
> making /boot a full 1GiB exactly (down to the sector).  I've started making all
> partitions perfect 1GiB boundaries, and am considering writing a tool.  I'd
> consider 512MiB today to be the absolute minimum for more than a few kernels.
>
> Of course, uEFI-GPT is coming.  Then you'll also have a FAT file system slice
> where you drop the GRUB loader into, instead of loading it into a MBR.  That's
> going to confuse even more people, but it's what we had in the ARC firmware days
> (for those of us who ran NT on non-x86, along with some targets of Linux, which
> also supported ARC for compatibility).
>
> If you like FC6, then migrate to RHEL5 (or a rebuild of it).  Your software
> should all work, and it will be supported until 2014 (2017 with an ELS
> subscription).
>
> As far a F15, the GNOME 3 Shell continues to impress myself.  I was shocked how
> well it runs on both AIGLX (accelerated) as well as non-AIGLX (seems to use
> IceWM, at least in F15).  Both are peppy and fast.  I liked Unity, but I'm
> finding I'm preferring GNOME 3.  I'm considering writing a tool to offer to set
> the GCONF profile to more of a NeXTstep default than Windows-like, as I'm tired
> of the GNOME 2 and, now, GNOME 3 defaults.  E.g., focus follows mouse.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Walt Smith<waltechmail at yahoo.com>
> To: "calug at unknownlamer.org"<calug at unknownlamer.org>
> Sent: Sun, June 19, 2011 12:31:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [CALUG] Fedora upgrade .... CALUG Digest, Vol 54, Issue 14
>
>
>
>
> I don't recall anyone saying why /boot needs so much
> space on an upgrade.
>
> I have 3 kernels on F12. I did rpm -i rather than rpm -U
>
> The biggest files in /boot are:
>
> initfs   11 meg
> vmlinuz  3.3 meg
> system.map  1.6 megs
>
> So I have 3 of each with a total /boot space of about 50 megs
> including misc files such as grub etc, most of which are "small".
>
> I can see some reason where an "upgrade" might require a bit more
> space that a single kernel install.  But gee whizz !!!
>
>
> The numbers bandied about suggest that the /boot wants to occupy
> a full cylinder of a disk ( or rather some upgrade script program
> wants  the space) (true:  ???? , ????).
>
>
>
> -------
>
> As an aside,  I fired up a FC6 yesterday.
> The terminal fonts are nicer than F12.   The apps start faster.
> They run smooth, the mouse is most responsive.
>
> F12 is on a 2.8 gig box with 1 gig ram.
> FC6 is on a 667 mhz box with 512 megs ram.
>
> Generally, over the years this has always been the case: older runs faster
> on slower hardware ( I'd say a dozen comparisons ).   The older distros
> my have a (very) few less features....    but the sound plays and the movies
> play.   It's the incompats with all the yearly  "newer" versions of the
>
> data files and servers that force me to upgrade my desktop OS.
> I was also surprised how little difference there was between the apps in FC6
> and F12.
>
> Memory ( human) can play tricks.  But I also preferred the look and feel of the
> graphical boot window ( progress bar) and the FC6 desktop.
>
>
> I'd been looking forward ( somewhat)  to upgrading  ( new install on other disk)
>
>
>
> to F15.   But I think I'll wait til the "next" edition (F16).   Guess I should
> check the
>
>
> dev list to see what will be  "new" or greatly improved in F16. (if anyone wants
>
> to donate
> to ca-list the improvements, please say).
>
> I know I've mention this subject before.  But it's been awhile and thought with
> the recent
> thread "new vs upgrade install"  might be worth simply repeating at this time.
>
> Heaven knows
> how much longer the desktop will exist.  Most likely in 3 years, the tablets (
> or smartphones)
> will have enough power that desktops go away forever  and laptops wilt into
> server class performance
> machines.
>
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